Threshold Does Not Matter on Cooperative Payments Before Coop Year-End

After our post from yesterday, we got the following question:

In previous posts, as long as the taxpayer stayed under the threshold and didn’t pay any wages, we didn’t have to worry about the amount of sales that they had with a coop. If this is the way we should be interpreting it now, if the taxpayer doesn’t pay any wages, will we need to back out grain sales to the Coop that fall withing the Coop’s fiscal year end?”

Remember, in order for a farmer to get any Section 199A 20% tax deduction, you have to have qualified business income. The Grain Glitch Fix specifically indicates that none of the payments received by the farmer during the period for January 1, 2018 until the cooperative’s year-end qualify for Section 199A.

Therefore, it does not matter if the farmer is under or over the threshold, none of these payments will qualify for any deduction. The bottom line is that the net income related to these payments will not be QBI and also will not qualify as Section 199 DPAD. The only deduction that the farmer may qualify for is the old Section 199 DPAD that the cooperative may pass through.

However, as has been written previously, many cooperatives already passed out this DPAD in December, 2017, so there will be no deduction in 2018 for these payments.

Many farmers typically receive most of their income from grain sales during the first few months of the subsequent tax year. In this case, for 2018, they may be have little or no Section 199A deduction for the year. That is bad news, the good news is that for 2019, there no longer is an issue with these payments.

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Paul Neiffer is a certified public accountant and business advisor specializing in income taxation, accounting services, and succession planning for farmers and agribusiness processors. Paul is a principal with CliftonLarsonAllen in Walla Walla, Washington, as well as a regular speaker at national conferences and contributor at agweb.com. Raised on a farm in central Washington, he has been immersed in the ag industry his entire life, including the last 30 years professionally. Paul and his wife purchase an 180 acre ranch in 2016 and enjoy keeping it full of animals.

Comments

If the Cooperative in question is a calendar year end, does that remove this extra calculation?

Thank you.

That is correct.

The letters from the coops are calling this deduction the 199A DPAD. So if it is a DPAD, is it an above the line deduction? Or does it only reduce taxable income? Thanks.

Paul,

I have a married farmer who sold land in 2018. He has a million dollar 1231 gain from this. He also has 1245 gains from equipment sales. On Schedule F he is going to show a 600,000 loss. I am just confirming that I will be able to net my million dollar gain and 1245 gains against the 600,000 loss and avoid the 500,000 excess business loss limitation on my schedule F. I would appreciate your input on this.

Can you discuss Section 199A on cattle feedlots, contract hog feeders or custom harvestors? There is adequate information on grain producers, but little information for livestock producers.