IRS Guidance on Section 199A Coming Soon?!

The IRS just announced that formal guidance will be coming on Section 199A sometime in July.  I think for the IRS that qualifies as soon.  Once that guidance is available we will post on what it means for our farmers.  Many of the unknown items are as follows:

  • Does Section 199A need to be calculated on a business-by-business basis or can you group businesses similar to what we do for passive activities.  If so, this would allow our farmers to group their farm operation with their farmland holding entities.  For now, we don’t know.
  • Do you have to pay wages in each activity?  Many commentators indicate that wages need to be paid in each entity.  We believe that the common paymaster rules similar to old Section 199 may not require this.  Also, several commentators recommend actually paying wages instead of using a third party provider.  We believe that is not necessary, but until we get formal IRS guidance – We don’t know.
  • What is a trade or business?  Does crop share rentals qualify?  Does cash rent rentals qualify?  We don’t know.

These are some of the major questions.  There are many more.

Finally, here is a video of our South Africa trip that my wife worked up.  This should be the last posting of photos and videos from the trip (but I won’t guarantee that).

 

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Paul Neiffer is a certified public accountant and business advisor specializing in income taxation, accounting services, and succession planning for farmers and agribusiness processors. Paul is a principal with CliftonLarsonAllen in Walla Walla, Washington, as well as a regular speaker at national conferences and contributor at agweb.com. Raised on a farm in central Washington, he has been immersed in the ag industry his entire life, including the last 30 years professionally. Paul and his wife purchase an 180 acre ranch in 2016 and enjoy keeping it full of animals.

Comments

Paul,

Do you have any insight as to how Section 199A will apply to fiscal year pass through entities spanning both 2017 and 2018 calendar years? Will the entire 12 months activity be included in the calendar 1040 calculations for the partners/shareholders? or possibly only prorated amounts?

I believe it will be the full year.

Paul, have you heard any more on the potential for the IRS extending the due date of S-Elections for the 2018 year?

Thank you for the update Paul! Please pass on “Good job on the slideshow – great choice of music” to Ms. Neiffer.

You have re-stoked my interest in such a trip.